Posts by never a jw

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The Thief of Always

by YinzerDad in

prologue... .

a brief precursor about myself.

i've been lurking around for almost 2 years.

You are young, smart, educated and free. Even without a strong passion for anything, you are way ahead of most. I have never been a JW, and yet I can identify with the "no fire in the belly" idea to some degree. I, however will share with you and this forum my ultimate goal in life, to die knowing that I contributed to make this world a better place for the next generations. I can't quite bring the passion out, but I do get a sense of satisfaction at the end every day knowing that I gave more than I took. I am 50 and in good health, but the old age, when the "give more than you take" reverses, is inexorably approaching. My immediate goal is to postpone that time for as long as I can. Life may be intrinsically meaningless, and that's the beauty of it, because you get to choose that meaning.

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JW's correlation to franchise business

by jeremiah18:5-10 in

jw
friends

i operate a 31 restaurant franchise.

it is no small task.

the franchise is a well known american company and a rapidly growing one.

never a jw

Interesting. Your analogy has merit, and yet religion and business are too different animals. You can't make predictions on a religion run like a business (Watchtower franchise) based on a pure business model, such as the franchise that you run. Your franchise doesn't have the huge amount of public relation problems that JW franchise have if the "consumers" knew the whole story about their religion.

This is the time when information is readily available. You better keep a very clean profile or hide it very well if it's damaged. The leadership of JW's has a very damaged "product", but the "consumers" don't know it... not YET!

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2015 Worldwide Memorial Attendance: Another Sign of Decline

by steve2 in

jw memorial attendance last year - 2014 - was about 50,000 shy of 20 million.

some posters on this forum had confidently predicted before the 2014 memorial that attendance would hit more than 20 milion.

they were wrong.. now, in 2015, and the memorial falling on a weekend night (where attendance is historically much higher), attendance has not only failed to top 20 milion but has declined by more than 87,000 in attendance over 2014:.

never a jw

The signs of the beginning of the great tribulation are here, or are we into the great tribulation already?

47

Since you left, have you become more moral?

by Coded Logic in

respect.

sympathy.

gossip.

never a jw

I was born and I will die Moral-less.

F. Morales

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

never a jw

We live in the greatest time in all of human history. Further progress will depend on human efforts not supernatural delusions.

I would add that human progress and superstition (religion) have an inverse correlation. The more of one, the less of the other.

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No Kingdom Halls would definitely work!

by John Aquila in

last night we were invited to a get-together with quite a few heavies attendingelders and regular pioneers.

there was beer and later some music.

everyone got relaxed and let down their guard and starting talking all kinds of non-theocratic stuff that you only discuss after a few beers.

never a jw

The most important question is: How much beer did you consume?.. be honest

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Are You Easily Offended? 😠

by minimus in

jw
friends

i'm sick and tired of everyone claiming to be "offended".

if you are not politically correct, you will need to apologize for some perceived slight.. when i was an elder, i purposely avoided as much as i could, anybody that got easily offended.

.

never a jw

M&M's are offensive. They stand for everything that is despicable.

183

JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

never a jw

isw1961,

Many of the seemingly good points that you raise can be applied to most christian religions. The bad points, however, are quite notorious and particular to JW's and few other groups that most people don't even consider religions, but cults.

Ultimately, the religion of JW's is good for the senile, the depressed, the illiterate,and everyone who can only find happiness on fairy tales and lies. Unfortunately these people could not keep the religion financially viable. The rest of JW's are better off out of the religion, even though they may not know it yet.

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

never a jw

isw1961

Welcome to the forum. However, don't stay too long if you want to hold on to your current beliefs, and more particularly, to the title of your opening piece. This is a place that opens minds. Definitely not a good place for people who rely on faith; more often than not they lose it.

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Which bible character do you hate the most?

by Bonsai in

the more i think about it, the more i feel an extreme dislike for the apostle paul.

he was on par with hitler in his treatment of the jews before he "saw the light".

he replaced jesus teachings of love and mercy with a more legalistic, pharisaical concept of devotion to god.. any evil person can come to believe in god and worship him if the scales were literally and miraculously removed from his eyes.

never a jw

Jehovah, then David and Paul